How does Oppo feel about Maybach?

"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg) 09/15/2014 at 14:45 • Filed to: maybach

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People are saying that the new S-Class has more than continued the long tradition of the Benz flagship by being the best car in the world. And it's about to get even better, with Maybach and Pullman versions on the horizon. People say that the old Maybach failed because it was just an uglier, more expensive S-Class. I disagree, and while I prefer the Phantom, I can say with confidence that my second half million dollar barge when I strike it rich will be a 62 Zeppelin. After all, for a $500,000 limo, it's fairly fast and sporty, and it flies under the radar, so to But how does Oppo feel about them? Crystals and diamond timepieces optional.

mcseanerson > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 14:48

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Honestly for real luxury, as in you have a driver and you address him as driver, I don't care what it looks like outside. It's all about how I feel inside and the Maybach seemed to do that job rather nicely.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > mcseanerson 09/15/2014 at 14:49

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Now, here's a follow-up question: That or the interior on a Phantom?

There are no wrong answers here.

Crocket Bernet > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 14:51

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They ight.

Vicente Esteve > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 14:53

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There can only be one Maybach worth considering

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Crocket Bernet 09/15/2014 at 14:55

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SM70 cannot into slang.

feather-throttle-not-hair > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 14:57

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It's less ostentatious than a RR. But that's also kind of the problem too right?

Personally i'd prefer it to the Rolls, because I like rolling in anonymity. But that being the case i'd probably just prefer a nice A8L to any of them.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > feather-throttle-not-hair 09/15/2014 at 14:58

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I like your taste.

chuck07 > Vicente Esteve 09/15/2014 at 14:58

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DIY:

KnowsAboutCars > Vicente Esteve 09/15/2014 at 14:59

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Wrong!

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 14:59

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I quite like it, unlike that hideous yacht in the back.

mcseanerson > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 14:59

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I'll take the Maybach. The Phantom looks like a stubby couch you're about to fall off of.

KnowsAboutCars > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:02

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They are amongst my favorite modern luxury cars. They were more than just more expensive S-classes and I don't think they look that bad.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 09/15/2014 at 15:02

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Hideous?

*I like motoryachts. A lot.

Vicente Esteve > chuck07 09/15/2014 at 15:04

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I knew this was coming!

Vicente Esteve > KnowsAboutCars 09/15/2014 at 15:06

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Wrong again!

GhostZ > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:08

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This is exactly how I feel about Maybach.

JR1 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:08

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I personally like the Maybach but the prestige of the Rolls Royce or a Bentley is hard to beat.

KnowsAboutCars > Vicente Esteve 09/15/2014 at 15:08

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Photochop. Doesn't count.

GhostZ > Crocket Bernet 09/15/2014 at 15:08

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They ight, they ight, but my shit is more John Blaze than that.

GhostZ > KnowsAboutCars 09/15/2014 at 15:10

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I think they are perfect for the type of person who wants a Rolls Royce, but can't stand the "old white money" association.

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:14

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I really like them as well, but that thing looks way too modern.

This I like.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 09/15/2014 at 15:23

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I like both. I love this thing, which I'm guessing you won't:

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > chuck07 09/15/2014 at 15:24

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DEAR GOD WHY!?!?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Vicente Esteve 09/15/2014 at 15:25

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Um...

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:26

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That's way too modern for me haha. But I'm like that with most things, furniture, architecture, art, music und so weiter.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 09/15/2014 at 15:28

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You would like Delphine, I assume?

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:30

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S.S. Delphine?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 09/15/2014 at 15:30

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Yup.

kaheff (L20E) > KnowsAboutCars 09/15/2014 at 15:32

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Binz can make it real: http://media.photobucket.com/user/Sebastian…

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:35

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Not really actually, steamships aren't my thing.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 09/15/2014 at 15:38

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How about the Christina O?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > GhostZ 09/15/2014 at 15:39

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But...but grey poupon.

GhostZ > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:43

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It's all about progression.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > GhostZ 09/15/2014 at 15:45

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Why does everyone keep posting Jay-Z and Kanye West as their answer to how they feel about Maybach, and then expect me to watch it?

YOU PEOPLE KNOW I AM ALLERGIC TO THAT STUFF!!!

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:48

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That might be one of the only exceptions, where is she now?

I'm a sucker for 1950's to 1980's Benettis though.

The Nabila being my all time favorite.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 09/15/2014 at 15:50

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Wow, that's a great looking boat. Looks like something I'd expect to see in a Roger Moore Bond film. I won't hold that against it, though.

The Christina O is currenty the private yacht of another shipping magnate and friend of the Onassis family.

EDIT: Just Googled Nabila, it was in a bond movie. Derp.

chuck07 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:53

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Because Kanye

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > chuck07 09/15/2014 at 15:54

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I don't like Kanye. That isn't helping.

chuck07 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 15:58

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Not sure if anyone likes him. I can't think of a culture that he hasn't pissed off.

GhostZ > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 16:03

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Because they're goddamn geniuses with serious history. It's like listening to a country singer who lived in the mountains for most of his life fighting bears and is now a billionaire media mogul. People like that just don't exist in other genres anymore.

The video I posted, in particular, has a line that references Ace of Spades ( Armand de Brignac ) a Champagne brand. What he had done was move from Cristal to Ace of Spades as a personal choice relating to racism allegations about Cristal.

In reality, he had received massive stock options from Ace of Spades and had cut them a deal worth around $50-70mil as of today. Think about that for a second. This guy is so good at music and media that he found a way to earn $50 million dollars by changing champagne brands. There is no modern rock star, no modern country singer, no modern pop singer who can carry the kind of respect that I would give him in music today.

Plus, the music itself is actually extremely well-created.

To bring the point home, the rumor is that the same thing, with both Kanye and Jay Z, happened with Maybach, which is why they owned, drove, and referenced it throughout the Watch the Throne album. However, I'm not quite sure how much profit they made from Daimler Benz. Rick Ross, another rapper, created a label called "Maybach Music", but failed to generate much success and is trying to keep the idea alive.

99.9% of rappers out there are not very good, just like how 99.9% of coutnry singers aren't, but that 0.1% like Jay Z, Kanye West, Biggie Smalls, Dr. Dre, and Eminem? They are financial giants playing in the largest media sandbox. Their music has meaning because they actually live for success and victory. At one time, that meant that they were actively involved in drugs and criminal activity. Nowadays, it means that they are operating extremely large businesses and making large amounts of money. Rap warfare is about dollars, not bullets, now.

Like I said, it's the equivalent of a country singer who actually lived in the mountains for most of his life, and has since created a massive music industry and become the best in his field. People like that are rare, and I hold a lot of respect for them.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > GhostZ 09/15/2014 at 16:06

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Aren't they mostly extremely wealthy initially because their music was popular?

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 16:07

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Never Say Never Again right?

Sad story that of the Onassis family, my parents were living in Paris when Callas died, they said it was the bleakest time in the city they had ever seen.

GhostZ > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 16:28

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1. Jay Z's earlier profession was dealing drugs, which got him out of the slums and into a record studio to start making music. Then he became extremely wealthy. Many other rappers started out this way, though not so much anymore.

2. Being popular isn't enough. Like I said, victory isn't measured in bullets anymore, it's measured in dollars. They get very little of their income from the sales of their records alone. Most of it is through complex financial planning and subtle marketing deals. Dr. Dre's Beats brand is another example of this. Their higher profit margins come from tours, also.

There are hundreds, probably closer to thousands, of rappers who are equally skilled as these guys at just making music. Many more of them have their heart and soul into it, but what separates them is the business mind, like the difference between a computer programmer and Bill Gates. There are programmers who could run circles around Bill Gates, but he's the richest man in the world for more than just his programming skill.

Assuming that Popular Music = Money is a naive assumption. These guys have got it down to a science, they can make anyone popular, but record sales alone isn't that much. But they want to influence businesses, consumers, and change the way people think about eachother. To do that, they use extensive marketing and media. In that way, music is alive in rap right now, and it's a very complex system that's fascinating to study.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 17:23

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I'd rather have a 760iL.

Or an A8L W12.

Or literally anything but a Maybach/S-Class.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 09/15/2014 at 19:53

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Yeah, it was Never Say Never Again.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > GhostZ 09/15/2014 at 20:44

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I believe you, and I get what you're saying now, but I just don't like rap. I respect it, and the artists who are great at it, but I just don't like it.

As for the business side of what your were saying, you are absolutely correct. However, for me, one of the only downsides of a Maybach would be that it is often seen as a rapper's car.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 09/15/2014 at 20:45

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How come?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 20:53

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I just really hate the S-Class.

I couldn't even tell you why, just something about it makes me hate it.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 09/15/2014 at 21:08

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That's an odd thing to just hate, but okay.

Could it have to do with the image of those who drive it (obnoxiously wealthy old white guys)?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/15/2014 at 21:11

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Probably, and that they're like the Camry of the luxury car world, meaning they're the car that anyone who's made it in life automatically go to without looking at anything else.

Steve in Manhattan > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 09/15/2014 at 21:19

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Here in NYC there are more than a few Maybachs, all pretty ugly. Sure, I'm sitting inside, but I have to get into it during the day sometimes.

The GF's boss has a car and a driver. BMW 7 cost too much to maintain even for a rich guy, and he's tired of an endless string of Town Cars. I thought about it, and suggested a Lexus 600hL. Been in one - comfortable, most likely dead reliable.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 09/15/2014 at 21:22

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1. I see more 7-Series than I do S-Classes.

2. The difference is, if you just buy a Camry right away without cross-shopping, you're cheating yourself. If you just buy an S-Class, you're getting what is in many ways the best car in its class. Especially with the new one.

Vicente Esteve > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/16/2014 at 00:53

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I HATE THAT

GhostZ > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/16/2014 at 06:11

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Well, you question was "why do you expect me to listen to this?" thought I'd do my best at answering.

But you're correct about the image that happened to Maybach, and it was a big affect on its lack of success. There's only about 30 rappers in the world worth more than $45m, and the income discrepancy for the job is one of the largest in the world. I doubt there would be, at any time, 10 rappers who could afford and want a Maybach at any given point.

The reality of it was that everyone liked the concept, but it wasn't worth putting the money out for it by the people who fit the profile best. Sort of like the VW Phaeton.